Lake Lanier Is Rising!


The locally heavy rains in Atlanta have raised Lake Lanier’s water level from 1050 feet and 11.88 inches on Dec. 9th to 1051 feet and 6.24 inches today at 5:15 EST - a gain of almost 6.5 inches!

The heavy rainfall in the area has caused many of the local rivers to rise and the runoff has helped build Lake Lanier’s level. There is still a flood watch in effect for North and South Fulton as of 11:08am EST, though it looks like the heaviest rains are in the past.

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25 Responses to “Lake Lanier Is Rising!”

  1. Ghost of Little Says:

    LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL SHOULD REPLACING THOSE DEAD POOL CLOCKS WITH CALENDARS!

    BOOGAWK!

    G. O’LITTLE

  2. Stephanie Says:

    Well, it better hurry the hell up! You just had the 5th bank failure in the Atlanta area, being Haven Trust Bank of Duluth, GA!

    The FDIC party is on again, and right on time, on Friday! The night hasn’t even started! Woo hoo!

    Kidding… This is staring down the length of a double-barreled shotgun, one round containing dry sand, and the other containing fiat dimes. “Keep the change, anybody?”

    Sore with dime-sized welts…
    Stephanie

  3. Dipchip Says:

    As of 5:30 Sun 14th Lake Lanier is up more than 12 inches at 51.99 ft. A level last seen on Nov 9th. With more rise possible during the coming week. Rain is possible nearly every day during the coming week.

  4. dreidson Says:

    looks to me like the COE is making a substantial effort to take advantage of the rains and allow the lake to retain more water. In the last few rains we’ve had, the lake had started to drain again after two days, but we’ve gone up Saturday, Sunday, and Monday morning. Looking at the river from the Roswell area, it looks as low as I can remember seeing it ever. I think the COE has been able to rely on downstream tributaries to put the minimum water flow into the Atlanta and south of Atlanta region and has been releasing very little from Buford damn. Not sure if they take rain forecasts into factor or not in determining how much to release on a day like today.

  5. global siege on resources Says:

    Hello Atlanta, Russell in Los Angeles covering the die off with http://www.ecosutra.tv
    I am busy editing the entire Geoff Lawton Director of the Australian permaculture research institute 72 hour design course. I have been press at many conventions ( peakoil, eco city summit, ect.) and well there is information you just do not get. I can break it down for you. Atlanta is an over consumption tipping point. 5 million people on the smallest watershed in America, the north Georgia Mountains. No snow pack, and then you have Florida with all its bad design of no water capture, same with most cities, taking the water rights to feed its over developed tipping point. The viscous cycle continues. Global weirding is the key and if you think you can expect the same amount of rainfall in the next 6 years Id like to see your charts.
    Can you take this surplus that has brought back the lakes to their average levels, and maintain that with the cycles you are in? Get Florida and Atlanta into permaculture systems that is the answer.

  6. richs Says:

    Global weirding is upon us! It’s a die-off!!! Oh my god. Hurry - Panic NOW!!!!!!!!! Run Chicken Little!! This guy should be taken very seriously. He’s a journalist. Not a kook at all.

  7. global siege on resources Says:

    lol, I was press at the World Energy convention at the Rio hotel in Vegas, they all said the tri state water war was a bigger tipping point than Phoenix. You little Richie boy, are a festering over consumption imperial thinker waiting for the next disaster to capitalize on. I am not the problem I am the solution. I need critical thinkers around me.

  8. Dipchip Says:

    Here are some critical facts:
    Last year LL lowest level occured on Dec 28th 1050.72 feet.
    Today Dec 18th LL is at 1052.25, more than 18 inches higher and rising.
    LL water shed history shows it has an annual rainfall of more than 60 inches, the highest annual rain fall avg for the continental US outside of the Pacific NW. More than 50 inches greater than Sothern Cal, Arizona, and Nevada.

    If the Colorado river watershed had received the rain that fell in the LL watershed last year Hoover dam would be running their flood gates at Max.

  9. dreidson Says:

    I agree with dipchip, the problem is not the size of the watershed, its the fact that we’ve had a multi year drought. It wouldn’t hurt to add or expand an existing reservoir that could help absorb loss of water in future droughts.

  10. global seige on resources Says:

    I guess I need to break it down in a formula.
    Peak oil leads to peak water from peak population

    That is the formula for the http://www.dieoff.org

    check it out yourself.

    If you need to be lied to about drought instead of over consumption to make you feel powerful, then thats your own problem with your own ego.

    I do not need validation.

  11. rkolter Says:

    There is a drought. It’s a fact. There is also heavy consumption, but currently it’s the drought that’s screwing with Atlanta and parts of Georgia, not a run on water.

  12. RichS Says:

    I have a feeling that global seige isn’t going to be swayed by facts or logic, but I have made the point before in this forum that the paradigm which applies to use of oil is not applicible to water.

    When oil is used, it is chemically altered. We use it, then it’s gone. When water is used, it is generally just moved around. We drink it in and pee it back out. We water our lawns and it soaks into the ground to become groundwater, or evaporates to rain back down another day. We will never run out of water. It’s impossible.

    The oil paradigm is so ingrained that we tend to apply it to using other resources such as water where it is meaningless and misleading. Please don’t make that mistake.

  13. global siege Says:

    Are you saying Atlanta is a gravity fed water system? It requires huge amounts of energy to move water. Oh wait,are you one of the consultants trying to bring water from the Tennessee River to Atlanta?

    In Florida and every other city including San Fransisco, they let the water run off into the ocean. Yes that water will show up somewhere else in time in natural patterns, but you do not live in natural patterns.

    Florida is the problem, and Atlanta is too. Capture your city roof water and use it to create a green food forest eco city. Atlanta is a mirage yearning to be a paradise.

    Reporting the die off…. Ruseell President of Ecosutra baby!!!!

    I think the score is like me 1000– to Atlanta 0. I think about returning to my home town, but such ego minded imperial thinkers there. All those mic mansions, wow, I can’t believe what has become of Atlanta.

  14. RichS Says:

    I humbly submit to Global Siege’s superior intellect.

  15. Johnv2 Says:

    I do not need validation.

    Ain’t it the truth! You don’t validate anything at all. The dieoff.org website looks like something designed in 1996, complete with charts from forgotten books from the early 90s. There is no argument I can find beyond naked assertion. There are no numbers, no formulas, no arguing from physical principles, no appeal to reason or logic. In short, it is the standard hairshirt envirowack twaddle. Begone, troll.

    Oh, and it is McMansion, brainiac. Like, you know, McMuffin.

  16. global siege Says:

    forgotten books? John reads Genetically Modified Organism daily,Cloning for children and mutations for a better future while taking a shit.

    Hey Atlanta did you know those water rights are Florida’s, you are just a squab. Like a native American reservation. You have no water rights. lol

    Hey Atlanta, how does it feel to know you are the worst imperial city in America. You are fed by corprotacracy. You are so wasteful. You make me sick and to be called an American with the likes of you is truly disgusting. We in California do not like the south. You purposefully keep the black population uneducated and you all are evil imperial thinkers. You are so unsustainable its going to be fun watching that part of the world of red necks die off. You truly get what you deserve.

    And you know who is coming to dinner to kick your ass for me? Nature fuck sticks. 2012, tick tock tick tock, If you all are still alive by then let me know?

  17. Dipchip Says:

    1. Excuse me, but I suspect the avg Black Georgian is more educated than most of the California population as half of the population are illegal aliens.

    When the generators stop turning in Hoover dam and the Imperial Valley dries up the buzzards will be picking your bones, and I will still be fishing in the back yard pulling 2# crappie out of lake Houston and tending my garden, while the water level in LL is still above 1050 foot elevation.

    Oh and BTW Buford Dam spillway is a continuation of the Chattahoochee River and then through northwest Atlanta and on to West Point Lake then Harding Lake and on to Columbus Ga. It seems gravity keeps the water flowing.

    And global siege: Keep on flapping your jaw and spitting out crap and your eyes may turn blue again, but in the meantime go study a little geography.

    The Phoenix, Las Vegas, San Diego, Los Angeles areas, and their 30 million people are doomed. They may start migrating towards Georgia but then will be looking down the barrel of a gun if they can make it thru Texas.

    LL Water level is now up 18 inches since 12-10-08

  18. global seige on resources Says:

    Dipchip thank you for that post. I laughed really hard. I already know how much the I( want you to see the nations bread basket is on earth life support. California’s failing agricultural lands are 10 years in the die off. Its called salting soil. Over salting the soil from bad farming practices. So go eat asparagus from Peru. Dipchip, Its not just peak oil its peak everything. So, how much does your garden sustain you, and what outside inputs do you use to feed it?
    Welcome to the Global siege on reasourse. The tipping point from erosiion and deforestation. Take a look at the Parana river, on the Paraguay Brazillian border. I want you to see the devestation of soybeans for your paint. You can not even eat the stuff.
    What do you care? You’re a pig lickin selfish no community festering oneness of mono crop culture. A cargo culture. I want you to use google earth and look at the estuaries on the mouths of the great rivers that feed the world. Look and see the erosion. But i have some more financial help for the 2012 die off. The world is in 600 trillion dollar derivative debt. “Thats what I want you to know . I want you to know. Thats what I want you to see in the film below (from Kill Bill)” .I associate the politics of climate change to the politics of war. When you hear about a pirate ship from Somalia hijacking tankers. You know that there were many more hijackings taking place before you heard about it. Or shell shock. Take a look and see how there is no economic recovery for you to bring any more imperial scarcity for your profit culture. Sustainability is an enemy of profit.
    Cities are places for people to die in. So what are you going to do to behave imperial?
    SLavery? You going to bring back indentured servitude? I hear you red necks think that all the time. Poor Dipchips in for a rocky ride. I am not telling you where I am going that is a secret.
    Zeigeist Adeendum
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=zeitgeist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.
    mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

  19. global seige on resources Says:

    i want you to know…… i want you to know?

  20. dreidson Says:

    what an idiot

  21. thirsty Says:

    I think this blog has gone to the twilight zone.

  22. Don Says:

    Iraq Oil Production Could Surge
    Recent reports highlight the enormous reserves of oil in Iraq and the potential for them to be exploited in the relatively near term, potentially impacting the onset of Peak Oil. From an investment viewpoint, I focus on the period ending in 2015, largely discounting whatever might come thereafter. In that time frame, Iraqi production increases are more limited and political risks are still hard to assess.

    That said, one must tentatively conclude from recent events that foreign contracts are likely to be let and production is likely to increase significantly during the next six years. These events are:

    - relatively free recent elections,

    - the likelihood of a continuation of the present government for the immediate future, thus suggesting that ongoing negotiations with foreign oil companies will continue and reach a conclusion, and

    - the apparent willingness of the U.S. to proceed toward withdrawal of troops suggest that Iraqi is becoming capable of keeping order within its borders.

    Here is a summary of two recent reports:

    An Oil & Gas Journal (1/19/09) article, “Iraq’s Oil Prospects Prospects Face Political Impediments”, notes that Iraq’s proved reserves are 115 billion barrels, of 80 fields only 15 have been partially developed, the 7 largest fields contain 2/3rds of total reserves proven to date, and it’s potential reserves are 215 billion barrels, possible the largest of any country in the world. Finding cost is a fraction of a dollar per barrel and estimated finding and development costs are between $1.50 and $2.25 per barrel, among the lowest in the world.

    Iraqi production reached 3.5 mb/d pre-invasion and is currently about 2.5 mb/d. Contrasting that with the current 12.5 mb/d potential production claimed by the Saudis and their peak 10 mb/d production gives some perspective to the Iraqi potential.

    How quickly could Iraq boost production? It would seem that three conditions must be met. First, Iraq must settle on a model for obtaining the required technology and skills from foreign operators. Iraqis see the state oil company model all around them and thus may be reluctant to allow private exploitation. On the other hand, Iraq may not have the funds to pay contracting firms to do all the work without giving them an incentive. So a viable business model must be determined and negotiated.

    Secondly, Iraq is a founding member of OPEC, which is currently restricting production. It seems clear that Iraq would be constrained from increasing their exports for some time to come. Such a constraint might not prevent them from starting exploitation activities, but it could depress the value of equity incentives they might need to provide to contractors, as discussed above. It may be necessary for the global economy to show signs of recovery before OPEC will lift export quotas, which could be a year or two from now.

    Thirdly, Iraq must secure its territory from any substantial risk of terrorist interference with oil production. Such security seems to be emerging, but complete assurance may require a working agreement with Iran which might take some time to negotiate.

    In sum, it seems likely that the start of expanded oil production in Iraq may be 2 - 4 years into the future. Iraq claims to aim for production of 6 mb/d by 2013. On the other hand, the O&G piece states that it would take Iraq 15 - 20 years to reach a sustainable output of 10 mb/d. If 15 years are required and 3 years are required before the effort begins, and if the goal is an increase of 7.5 mb/d that suggests a take-up rate of about 400kb/d per year.

    Taking all the above into account, and assuming that security turns out not to be a problem, it suggests the following median case (not best or worst) rate of increase beyond the current 2.5 mb/d of production:

    2009: 0

    2010: 0

    2011: 0

    2012: .4 mb/d

    2013: .8 mb/d

    2014: 1.2 mb/d

    2015: 1.6 mb/d (about half the increase that Iraq claims it wishes to achieve)

    A second report on the same topic was recently published by Reuters. It adds some color to the above, including an emphasis on the current security risks and shortfalls. Here it is:

    Iraq oilfields ready for revival, await foreigners
    Sun Feb 1, 2009 7:39pm EST

    By Mohammed Abbas and Ahmed Rasheed

    BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) - Next to a pipeline snaking across a desert in Iraq’s south, villas built to house an expected influx of foreign oil workers stand empty.

    Nearby, a faded plaque in Russian and Arabic commemorates the opening of a pumping station in 1972, a reminder of the foreign ties that helped Iraq develop its oil industry.

    As U.S. President Barack Obama confronts the legacy of a war his predecessor launched almost six years ago, Iraq has once again begun to open its vast oil reserves to foreign companies.

    The country has launched a bidding round for some of its largest oil and gas fields, which it hopes will attract multibillion dollar investments. There is still some confusion over the deals, scheduled to be awarded by June.

    But a lack of security, rigid bureaucracy and the absence of a legal framework is still deterring the investment Iraq needs to update its decaying oil infrastructure.

    “A foreign oil workers’ compound, whether Exxon, BP, Shell or whoever, would be a bull’s-eye for an attack,” said a senior foreign oil executive who declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.

    Foreigners were prime targets in the years of bloodshed unleashed by the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and videos of kidnapped Westerners being beheaded shocked the world.

    Iraq sits on an estimated 115 billion barrels of oil, the world’s third largest reserves. But tin shacks still line the road to its oil fields, and the government is desperate to use oil income to rebuild the country.

    Villas which once housed Russian workers are now in need of a refit and equipment worn down by war, sanctions and sectarian violence is hopelessly antiquated.

    Deprived of foreign expertise and money, Iraqi engineers have grown adept at tinkering with old equipment and salvaging spare parts, but their maintenance is only skin deep.

    “We painted the tanks, improved the checkpoint, the toilets … simple things, not fundamental things for production,” said Khodair Abd, a North Rumaila supervisor.

    “There were companies supposed to come here for that, but I don’t know what happened … This is the same station that was installed in 1972,” he added.

    NO MORE EXCUSES

    At the South Rumaila oilfield, which has an estimated output of 800,000 barrels of crude per day, a lack of equipment means valuable gas is burned off in huge flares, the smoke streaming like jets of ink into the blue desert sky.

    The violence that almost tore Iraq apart in 2006 and 2007 has fallen sharply in the past 18 months and Iraq now believes the time has come for foreign firms to start showing up.

    “The excuse of a lack of security has gone. The security situation has transformed, root and branch,” said Mohammed Nasser, an engineer at the 1950s-era South Rumaila plant where antique dials, gauges and switch panels sit next to more modern pieces of electronic equipment.

    Some foreign firms are taking tentative steps back in.

    The Chinese National Petroleum Company (CNPC) started work this year on a $3 billion project in the al-Ahdab oil field in eastern Wasit province, the first foreign firm to begin such work since Saddam nationalized the industry decades ago.

    Oil major Royal Dutch Shell Plc in 2008 signed a deal with Iraq to collect the gas by-product of crude extraction that is usually burned off in Rumaila North and South, the country’s two most productive fields.

    And U.S. firm Weatherford International has a deal to operate in Rumaila North and in the Zubair oil field.

    But they have few if any workers on the ground in the country’s oil-rich south, which accounts for about 80 percent of Iraq’s oil production.

    “We probably could do a reconnaissance visit now, but that is very different from sending people in to work at compounds and bases. We’re not ready for that,” said another oil executive who also declined to be named.

    IRAQIS REMAIN CONFIDENT

    In spite of such skepticism, Iraqi officials believe the country’s oil sector will ultimately prove irresistible.

    “International oil companies are killing themselves to sign contracts with Iraq,” said Isam al-Chalabi, who was the Iraqi oil minister from 1987-1990.

    One of Iraq’s greatest allures is the ease with its oil can be pumped. The Oil Ministry has said it only costs around $2 a barrel to extract Iraqi crude.

    With oil prices below $50 a barrel, down from a high of $147 six months ago, the low cost of production gives the country a huge advantage over producers who pump their crude out of deep sea wells, for example.

    Of the 35 companies qualified for a first bidding round of oil field servicing tenders last year, 30 have paid for technical information about eight oil and gas fields.

    “That implies there is a real desire to work in Iraq,” Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani said when announcing a second round at the end of December.

    He did not see any impediment in Iraq’s failure to agree on a law to give foreign companies access to profit-sharing deals, clarify taxation, and define how oil resources are divided between Baghdad and the provinces.

    He is not the only optimist: “I’m confident Iraq will become a rich oil state and that our grandsons will enjoy a welfare state like they currently do in the Gulf countries,” said Sabah Ghani, 65, an Iraqi businessman.

    “It won’t happen in record time.”

  23. wooden gates Says:

    I don’t normally comment on blogs but your post was a real help. Thank you for a great topic, I will be sure to bookmark your site and check it out again. Cheers, Amy xXx.

  24. global siege on resources Says:

    Hello Wooden gates. Thanks for the kind words. I am ready to shake the tree a little bit more.

    So you should know. It has now been measured that China’s desert is now growing the size of Rhode Island everyday.

    Drought is not the issue alone. Desertification and climate change are accelerating the drought over consumption tipping point train.
    Along with it will be the power down of agriculture. Evil capitalist imperial Short selling Hedge funds destroyed the chance to create bridges off the time line of fossilized sun light exploitation which is now in the decline. No time to bridge with Wall Street in the way of progress.

    I want to see migrations… One being a nomadic culture that is mobile using a plug in vehicle power distribution center. Switch Grass ethanol will move the mobile Rave camp that plants the seeds for the food forests for all to pick. There are base camps that create a rib cage swale effect off the rivers of the nation. Creating a fungal food forest for the bio chars and sustainable fertilizers and compost teas.
    I want you to wake up and stop looking for the Federal Reserve to pick you up out of the consolidators grip that will lead you to nothing. They are masters of incompetence.

    I have been correct all this time. look at lake Arlington Texas.dry, zoom out of it with Google Earth and look at the suburban sprawl of over consuption. Same with Atlanta You need to lead with my knowldege. You need to take my power and make it your own.

    People will be coming to the eco village kicking and screaming.

    Permaculture

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