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	<title>Comments on: If you buy an old house in DeKalb, you MUST get a low-flow toilet</title>
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	<description>Keeping you informed about the Georgia drought.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chicken Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicken Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about if I buy a NEW house in FULTON county?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about if I buy a NEW house in FULTON county?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthSideNative</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthSideNative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just curious about the low-flow toilet rule,if it were to become a rule in my county...what about we peasants who rent older apartments?I cant afford $150 for a new toilet(Im posting from my phone since I cant afford a pc either) and think it should be the landlord's responsibility.Can the county force low-income folks to install one whether we can afford it or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just curious about the low-flow toilet rule,if it were to become a rule in my county&#8230;what about we peasants who rent older apartments?I cant afford $150 for a new toilet(Im posting from my phone since I cant afford a pc either) and think it should be the landlord&#8217;s responsibility.Can the county force low-income folks to install one whether we can afford it or not?</p>
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		<title>By: absitively</title>
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		<dc:creator>absitively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contaminants in sewage sludge, which make it problematic as a fertilizer do not come from humanure. Sludge is a different material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contaminants in sewage sludge, which make it problematic as a fertilizer do not come from humanure. Sludge is a different material.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were some upstream violations as well (i.e. the people who produced those contaminants and released them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if there were some upstream violations as well (i.e. the people who produced those contaminants and released them).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and &lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080306/ap_on_re_us/sludge_poisoned_land;_ylt=Amx1vby1mBH2hESbMjRkeeKs0NUE" rel="nofollow"&gt;here's &lt;/a&gt; an interesting bit of news for those of you in the human waste is good manure crowd.  EPA has been promoting the use of sewage sludge since 1978, but there's been some problems.  The money quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;AUGUSTA, Ga. - It was a farm idea with a big payoff and supposedly no downside: ridding lakes and rivers of raw sewage and industrial pollution by converting it all into a free, nutrient-rich fertilizer. Then last week, a federal judge ordered the Agriculture Department to compensate a farmer whose land was poisoned by sludge from the waste treatment plant here. His cows had died by the hundreds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Granted, if you look at the contaminants that caused they damage, they were all industrial ones: Thallium, PCBs, arsenic and some other heavy metals.  This means that if the waste treatment plant were doing what it was supposed to be doing, and the EPA was doing what it was supposed to be doing, this would have been okay.  Who wants to bet that the city of Atlanta's sludge is treated correctly?  Not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080306/ap_on_re_us/sludge_poisoned_land;_ylt=Amx1vby1mBH2hESbMjRkeeKs0NUE" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s </a> an interesting bit of news for those of you in the human waste is good manure crowd.  EPA has been promoting the use of sewage sludge since 1978, but there&#8217;s been some problems.  The money quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>AUGUSTA, Ga. - It was a farm idea with a big payoff and supposedly no downside: ridding lakes and rivers of raw sewage and industrial pollution by converting it all into a free, nutrient-rich fertilizer. Then last week, a federal judge ordered the Agriculture Department to compensate a farmer whose land was poisoned by sludge from the waste treatment plant here. His cows had died by the hundreds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Granted, if you look at the contaminants that caused they damage, they were all industrial ones: Thallium, PCBs, arsenic and some other heavy metals.  This means that if the waste treatment plant were doing what it was supposed to be doing, and the EPA was doing what it was supposed to be doing, this would have been okay.  Who wants to bet that the city of Atlanta&#8217;s sludge is treated correctly?  Not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, my personal opinion is that the solution to a lot of environmental problems is teaching people to have less children on average.  A lot of environmental and resource issues would be relieved if there were lower growth rates.  Of course, I disagree with the Pope and the current U.S. administration over the methods that might be accomplished but that's getting off topic.


Kristin:  Go look at the "don't put a bucket in your shower" thread.  There's a link to a pdf that shows how much inter-basin transfer there is.  I calculated roughly 10% of the Atlanta metro area treated water doesn't end up in the Chattahoochee again because of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, my personal opinion is that the solution to a lot of environmental problems is teaching people to have less children on average.  A lot of environmental and resource issues would be relieved if there were lower growth rates.  Of course, I disagree with the Pope and the current U.S. administration over the methods that might be accomplished but that&#8217;s getting off topic.</p>
<p>Kristin:  Go look at the &#8220;don&#8217;t put a bucket in your shower&#8221; thread.  There&#8217;s a link to a pdf that shows how much inter-basin transfer there is.  I calculated roughly 10% of the Atlanta metro area treated water doesn&#8217;t end up in the Chattahoochee again because of this.</p>
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		<title>By: absitively</title>
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		<dc:creator>absitively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The long history of recycling of every organic resource back into food production certainly contributed to the high population density of Asia. Paradoxically, their traditional farming methods are clearly effective in supporting human life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long history of recycling of every organic resource back into food production certainly contributed to the high population density of Asia. Paradoxically, their traditional farming methods are clearly effective in supporting human life.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthSideNative</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthSideNative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone keeps missing the point...allowing cows and pigs to become extinct due to zero meat comsumption would just mean room for MORE PEOPLE,MORE OVERPOPULATION!"Asia has been using human manure as fertilizer forever"yeah,and theyre overpopulated AND STARVING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone keeps missing the point&#8230;allowing cows and pigs to become extinct due to zero meat comsumption would just mean room for MORE PEOPLE,MORE OVERPOPULATION!&#8221;Asia has been using human manure as fertilizer forever&#8221;yeah,and theyre overpopulated AND STARVING!</p>
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		<title>By: jd in ct</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd in ct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: South side native;  feces from meat eaters

Oh, so if everybody was vegetarian we wouldn't need an acre of corn to feed every cow or pig. We could save all that water from irrigation and slacking the animals thirst while making available  a limitless supply of fertilizer.

Bravo! Let's make a law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: South side native;  feces from meat eaters</p>
<p>Oh, so if everybody was vegetarian we wouldn&#8217;t need an acre of corn to feed every cow or pig. We could save all that water from irrigation and slacking the animals thirst while making available  a limitless supply of fertilizer.</p>
<p>Bravo! Let&#8217;s make a law!</p>
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		<title>By: absitively</title>
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		<dc:creator>absitively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Asians have been using humanure as a crop fertilizer forever. "Farmers of Forty Centuries" by F.H. King is a definitive text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Asians have been using humanure as a crop fertilizer forever. &#8220;Farmers of Forty Centuries&#8221; by F.H. King is a definitive text.</p>
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